Return-Path: Date: Sat, 12 Aug 1995 06:23:24 -0400 Errors-To: gregt@Visix.COM Reply-To: tool-list@Visix.COM Originator: tool-list@visix.com Sender: tool-list@Visix.COM Precedence: bulk From: tool-list@Visix.COM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: TOOL-LIST digest 397 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Tool discussion TOOL-LIST Digest 397 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Toads by Justin McKinlay 2) RE:fkn long loud scream by Justin McKinlay 3) Re: tOoL, tV, sKaTiNg, SaRaH...... by pbooras@jax.jaxnet.com (Peter Booras) 4) Re: Stuff by Justin McKinlay 5) Danny Carey Q & A in Ask-A-Pro: Modern Drummer by pbooras@jax.jaxnet.com (Peter Booras) 6) Re: Census?? by Justin McKinlay 7) Re: Eh! by Justin McKinlay 8) Re: Reply re- Eh! by "Sarah Groves" 9) Re: Re:Eh! by RollinsMan@aol.com 10) Re: Danny Carey Q & A in Ask-... by RollinsMan@aol.com 11) Gossip... by mailloux@dallas.net (Danielle Mailloux) 12) Re: Eh! by matts@mpx.com.au (Matt Steadman) 13) Reply re: Re: Eh! by Jennerlee 14) wacky wild by kabir@sas.upenn.edu (Your pal Kabir) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Topic No. 1 Date: Fri, 11 Aug 1995 21:01:43 +1000 (EST) From: Justin McKinlay To: tool-list@visix.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Toads Message-ID: > it was the most intense, violent show ever. Maynerd even told a > Michael Jackson joke. what was the joke?!?! jud. ------------------------------ Topic No. 2 Date: Fri, 11 Aug 1995 21:03:23 +1000 (EST) From: Justin McKinlay To: tool-list@visix.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: RE:fkn long loud scream Message-ID: > Hey Kevin, could I get a copy of those bootlegs? ;) > also > Could ANYONE who has a video bootleg that could copy it for me EMAIL > so I can send a tape? PLEASE? > Andy > > ME TOO!!! Please????? > - Brad and me THREE!!! jud. ------------------------------ Topic No. 3 Date: Fri, 11 Aug 1995 07:11:16 -0400 From: pbooras@jax.jaxnet.com (Peter Booras) To: tool-list@visix.com Subject: Re: tOoL, tV, sKaTiNg, SaRaH...... Message-ID: <199508111111.HAA27246@jax.jaxnet.com> I remember watching a snowboard video where they used Hush and Undertow as the music. Tool and rad sports seem to go perfect together. I'll see if I can look up the name of that video... - Peter ============================================================== | Physical Therapy First, Inc. | Peter Booras | | Jacksonville, Florida | pbooras@jax.jaxnet.com | | http://www.jaxnet.com/~pbooras/ | ============================================================== ------------------------------ Topic No. 4 Date: Fri, 11 Aug 1995 21:07:17 +1000 (EST) From: Justin McKinlay To: tool-list@visix.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Stuff Message-ID: > Second, I remember during the first and only time that I have seen > TOOL that when introducing Opiate, MJK said "This song is about beer. > It's called 'BEER'" Pretty cool. Ever been done before?? > Also, he had said that it would be the last song, but carried the > ending into the start of FLood as I've heard live on a 6-track CD that I got > free with Undertow. Hmmmmm. I actually don't know why i mentioned > that... did you see them at the brisbane alternative nation!? coz that's exactly what he said before heading into opiate. time-off (local street music publication) even printed something about TOOL's song "beer" being just what the crowd were waiting for seeing as they'd had so much beer to drink already! :) at first i was half excited to hear him say "it's called beer" coz i figured hey it's a new song. but i'm glad it turned out to be opiate :) jud. ------------------------------ Topic No. 5 Date: Fri, 11 Aug 1995 07:18:47 -0400 From: pbooras@jax.jaxnet.com (Peter Booras) To: tool-list@visix.com Subject: Danny Carey Q & A in Ask-A-Pro: Modern Drummer Message-ID: <199508111118.HAA27463@jax.jaxnet.com> This is from a section of Modern Drummer where mere mortals like ourselves get to ask drum gods like danny about his drumming: PS.. I scanned a small .JPG from the mag too, if someone wants it, lemme know where to send it. ------ Taken from Modern Drummer's "Ask A Pro" Question: I'm a tremendous Tool fan and a big fan of your drumming. I've never seen a drummer nearly as creative or as musical as you are in any other metal band. Also, your beats are always more interesting than the usual fare, using syncopation, tom patterns, and the hi-hat. I'd like to know what heads you use in the studio and/or live and how they're generally tuned. Also, did you come up with the ride pattern where the hi-hat is open on the "&s" and closed on the beat (used in "Sober" and the mid-sec-tion of "Bottom") or did you pick it up from some other drum-mer? Finally, can you give me any tips on coming up with beats that fit the songs so well? Bill Cumby Swatthmore, PA Answer: Thanks for the more than generous compliments. The heads I use in the studio are usually clear Ambassadors on top and clear Diplomats on the bottom. On very heavy tunes that lean on the toms I'll use the same thing I do live: clear Emperors on top and Ambassadors on the bottom. The snare and the kick remain the same in both situations. The snare gets a CS Black Dot (underside) batter and a Diplomat snare-side head. The kick gets a Power-stroke 3 front and I back with a bit of muffling inside. (All those heads are by Remo.) As for the "Sober" hi-hat pattern, I guess we can look at that as one of the few good products to come out I of the '70s disco era I grew up in. When conceiving a beat for a song, the most important thing is to let its natural pulse preside over the rhythm. But you take over the emotional controls. You guide the journey that everyone's involved in and interject your touch when your taste tells you it fits. It's the drummer's responsibility to lead songs in this way because his or her tools are the best-designed for the job. Drums and cymbals contain the power to go many places in countless ways. Never limit yourself! Danny Carey, Tool  ============================================================== | Physical Therapy First, Inc. | Peter Booras | | Jacksonville, Florida | pbooras@jax.jaxnet.com | | http://www.jaxnet.com/~pbooras/ | ============================================================== ------------------------------ Topic No. 6 Date: Fri, 11 Aug 1995 21:13:36 +1000 (EST) From: Justin McKinlay To: tool-list@visix.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Census?? Message-ID: > >which state did you see them in? couldn't have been brisbane coz they > >didn't open with cold and ugly :) ... ah well, i thought they were > >fucking awesome... there were some true fans there as well, one chick > >near where i was moshing was just screaming "MAYNARD GET THE FUCK OUT > >HERE" for like 5 minutes before they came on stage... > Nah... saw them in wet Melbourne. It was weird, I didn't think that many > people had heard of them, but the whole place was a sea of Tool t-shirts > (literally! It's never rained so hard in Melbourne ever. Perhaps it was god > punishing us for seeing a band play "Opiate" on Easter sunday! :D ). :) at the big day out in '94, i can't remember seeing a single tool shirt. this year at the BDO there were heaps. and heaps at alternative nation as well. we saw em easter friday, fuck it was good! they *HAVE* to tour here again because i felt the set wasn't long enough. 45 minutes just doesn't satisfy me :P jud. ------------------------------ Topic No. 7 Date: Fri, 11 Aug 1995 21:20:34 +1000 (EST) From: Justin McKinlay To: tool-list@visix.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Eh! Message-ID: > Its not fair. TOOL should fly to Adelaide tomorrow. Theres plenty of room at > my place, and I'll scam some way of raising their plane fare. > All those in favour of a COMPLETE Australian tour say "Eye" EyeEyeEyeEyeEyeEyeEyeEyeEyeEyeEyeEyeEyeEyeEyeEyeEyeEyeEyeEye!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Jud. ------------------------------ Topic No. 8 Date: 11 Aug 1995 08:01:19 +0100 From: "Sarah Groves" To: tool-list@visix.com Subject: Re: Reply re- Eh! Message-ID: oJen. o(who is spoiled by living on the EAST coast, where obands actually tour...) -------------------------------------- Yeah. no kidding. I haven't heard of tool show for about 2 years around here (S.F.) We saw them at a little tiny club in 1993, it was after Lollapalooza. I wish they'd come back sometime soon. Sarah ------------------------------ Topic No. 9 Date: Fri, 11 Aug 1995 19:18:31 -0400 From: RollinsMan@aol.com To: tool-list@visix.com Subject: Re: Re:Eh! Message-ID: <950811191830_72304024@aol.com> I can't take all of this fucking talk about TOOL playing live for people. I haven't seen them live yet either and I really want to. So I'll just say this for everyone! DAMN IT! TOOL! WE NEED A WORLD TOUR! please! CMcG ------------------------------ Topic No. 10 Date: Fri, 11 Aug 1995 19:26:33 -0400 From: RollinsMan@aol.com To: tool-list@visix.com Subject: Re: Danny Carey Q & A in Ask-... Message-ID: <950811192632_72310051@aol.com> .JPG! I'll take the .JPG from the mag. Oh yes!!!!!!!!!!!! ------------------------------ Topic No. 11 Date: Fri, 11 Aug 1995 19:47:25 -0600 From: mailloux@dallas.net (Danielle Mailloux) To: tool-list@visix.com Subject: Gossip... Message-ID: >I heard MJK was caught in a threesome with Keanu Reeves and Billy Corgan I refuse to believe 'nard would be caught in anything with anyone as brainless as Keanu Reeves, no matter how attractive. Then again, he is a guy. ;^) Danielle ------------------------------------------------------------- "You're sayin' that the victim doesn't want it to end...GOOD..."--GD ------------------------------ Topic No. 12 Date: Sat, 12 Aug 95 11:10 EST From: matts@mpx.com.au (Matt Steadman) To: tool-list@visix.com Cc: UXDX70B@prodigy.com Subject: Re: Eh! Message-ID: >some aussie wants a tour...NAY, NAY, NAY!!!! Not just ONE aussie... now we are numbered (big fanfare) *THREE!!* Just one aussie would have been laughable, two might have held some attention, but we have risen to three, and cannot be stopped! At a rate like this, tommorow we shall have... well... four. But hey! That's one more than three! >Its not fair. TOOL should fly to Adelaide tomorrow. Theres plenty of room at >my place, and I'll scam some way of raising their plane fare. Well, you're half right! The next aussie Tool concert will be held in MY lounge room (next to the telly). I'll give you free tickets, though! >All those in favour of a COMPLETE Australian tour say "Eye" EEEEEEEE Y Y EEEEEEEE !! E Y Y E !! E Y Y E !! EEEEEEEE Y Y EEEEEEEE !! E Y E !! E Y E EEEEEEEE Y EEEEEEEE !! Loud enough for ya? I am the king of ASCII! Have a nice weekend, Toolers! ------- Professor Nutbutter -------- "Hey kids, ya like that rock & roll?" -- msteadmn@landsend.apana.org.au -- -------- matts@mpx.com.au ---------- ------------------------------ Topic No. 13 Date: Sat, 12 Aug 1995 11:46:17 +1000 From: Jennerlee To: tool-list@visix.com Subject: Reply re: Re: Eh! Message-ID: <199508120146.LAA00245@isa.isa.com.au> >>some aussie wants a tour...NAY, NAY, NAY!!!! > >Not just ONE aussie... now we are numbered (big fanfare) *THREE!!* three? i think your maths is off.. i count at least FIVE (less poor Nathan who had his uni account disintegrated)... Pete? whats the census say? are we commoners or what? heh heh.. NEway.. a TOOL tour would be GREAT, but i'd settle for an album before the end of the year ;> Jen. (who lives on the EAST coast of AUSTRALIA.. where bands actually tour..) ps. don't you guys just LOVE the way people look at you like you're physically abnormal when you pull up beside their BMW's with TOOL blaring out of the stereo? ------------------------------ Topic No. 14 Date: Sat, 12 Aug 1995 04:43:57 -0400 From: kabir@sas.upenn.edu (Your pal Kabir) To: tool-list@porsche.visix.com (The List) Subject: wacky wild Message-ID: was just way for a whole week glad to see you all missed me; i have LOTS of mail to read danielle, got your mail. interesting. more rumors? maybe. _________kabir akhtar_________________________________________________________ | | Vice President, Kabir Fan Club | no bunny..it's not funny | Secretary, Intuitons Experimental Theater | don't believe everything | | you read................ | http://pobox.com/~kabir/ | ..............--pailhead | is: "Lick Me / Click Me" _|__________________________|_________________________________________________ ------------------------------ End of TOOL-LIST Digest 397 ***************************