TOOL-LIST Digest 414 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Tool FAQ (6.21.95) by Joseph.Breen@cazr.dwe.csiro.au (Joseph Breen) 2) bass by Michael Shurpik 3) Re: bass by brian wood 4) Re: bass by "'Ted Severe' Steve Reed" 5) Hello! by matts@mpx.com.au (Matt Steadman) 6) Re: Feeling music by nivek.ogre@compudata.com (NIVEK OGRE) 7) band pages. by nivek.ogre@compudata.com (NIVEK OGRE) 8) Other than TOOL by nivek.ogre@compudata.com (NIVEK OGRE) 9) Little Green Men... by nivek.ogre@compudata.com (NIVEK OGRE) 10) Battle of the bands by nivek.ogre@compudata.com (NIVEK OGRE) 11) Wake up. by nivek.ogre@compudata.com (NIVEK OGRE) 12) Re: emotional blocks by nivek.ogre@compudata.com (NIVEK OGRE) 13) non TOOL - MINISTRY by brian wood 14) Re: RESIDENTS by kau10@central.sussex.ac.uk (Nicholas Fisher) 15) am I still on the list? by steve goyette 16) Re: Cow Licking It's Own Ass by "Christopher J. Roschek" 17) Re: windows 95 by Jon Adam Hebert 18) Re: emotional blocks by dkouris@iastate.edu 19) Re: what is that by troll@interlog.com (Christopher S. Andrade) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Topic No. 1 Date: Fri, 25 Aug 1995 15:05:15 +0930 From: Joseph.Breen@cazr.dwe.csiro.au (Joseph Breen) To: tool-list@visix.com Subject: Re: Tool FAQ (6.21.95) Message-ID: <199508250535.PAA04189@alice.cazr.dwe.csiro.au> >From the FAQ >C. What picture of a cow licking itself? > > Go ahead, pop off the black tray that holds the CD. There ya go! > What black tray? I didn't get a black tray Ripped off Bummer Joe ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ joseph.breen@cazr.dwe.csiro.au ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Never put down to conspiracy that which can be explained by incompetence" Terrance Dicks ------------------------------ Topic No. 2 Date: Fri, 25 Aug 1995 02:48:58 -0400 From: Michael Shurpik To: tool-list@visix.com Subject: bass Message-ID: <199508250648.CAA24265@utrecht.lcs.mit.edu> Well, I never thought I'd be answering a post about bass playing, but it seems no-one else has. Paul uses a Richenbacher...I read that in a concert report on the homepage, and I've also heard references to Ricks on this list. anyway, just a non-bass player passing something along... ------------------------------ Topic No. 3 Date: Thu Aug 24 23:44:08 1995 From: brian wood To: tool-list@Visix.COM Subject: Re: bass Message-ID: <9508250644.AA04903@chop.isca.uiowa.edu> Michael Shurpik writes: > Paul uses a Richenbacher... It has been so long since I seen them, I couldn't remember. It makes sense, though. One of the coolest bands in the world should be playing THE coolest bass in the world. --- Brian Wood "so this is what's in store Iowa City, Iowa pull your head up; no one cares at all" bwood@panda.uiowa.edu Quicksand - "Landmine Spring" ------------------------------ Topic No. 4 Date: Fri, 25 Aug 1995 00:24:48 -0700 (PDT) From: "'Ted Severe' Steve Reed" To: tool-list@Visix.COM Subject: Re: bass Message-ID: > seems no-one else has. Paul uses a Richenbacher...I read that in a concert > report on the homepage, and I've also heard references to Ricks on this list. > anyway, just a non-bass player passing something along... I do believe, though, that he switched to something else. ------------------------------ Topic No. 5 Date: Fri, 25 Aug 95 19:50 EST From: matts@mpx.com.au (Matt Steadman) To: tool-list@visix.com Subject: Hello! Message-ID: Hi all, I'm back!! Good to see my mailbox stuffed with Tool-ings. I thought I'd just reply to some of the stuff that's happened the past week... Brad wrote: >Hey Jenny, in response to this: >i don't see why everyone on the fkn TOOL list has to hear you whine about how >much (IYO) silverchair suck! sour grapes.. so you can play... What do you think the list is for? It's here for discussing our opinions on music, specifically Tool. So Jenny doesn't like Silverchair, neither do I (in fact, I was one of the scum who helped start the thread in the first place. Sorry). But anyway, I think that we can express our opinions on Silverchair - look at the comments made about NIN a few days back - why not complain about them instead? I'd prefer more in depth debate about non-tool stuff than crappy on topic debate (lets face it, there ain't much to talk about right now...) Andy wrote: >NUTBUTTER: could you please send me that mailing list file? I would have sent >to all those addresses but it seemed kind of complicated and this seemed >easier. Please send it to: ETNL43B@PRODIGY.COM Hey, guess what? I fucked that up, didn't I?!? What I meant was, those 4 steps (a through d) were the different ways of getting the list. You could choose either, whichever is easier. Also, you can get it via Yahoo by going into their Entertainment:Music:Mailing Lists section (I think. It's around there anyway.). Susanne wrote: >Has anyone purchased windows 95? If so what's it like? Yeah, I know it's off topic, but I'm using it now - I've had it for about 5 hours, and I must say that it's rather brilliant. Better than a mac, anyday! Hey, I've heard that MJK uses Win95.... >:) Well, byeeee! ------- Professor Nutbutter -------- "Hey kids, ya like that rock & roll?" -- msteadmn@landsend.apana.org.au -- -------- matts@mpx.com.au ---------- ------------------------------ Topic No. 6 Date: Fri, 18 Aug 95 02:02:00 -0400 From: nivek.ogre@compudata.com (NIVEK OGRE) To: tool-list@visix.com Subject: Re: Feeling music Message-ID: <8AF607A.01F4043B57.uuout@compudata.com> J>I think Ozzy Osbourne and Tony Iome would beg to differ with your J>thoughts on who invented metal. Most of Metallica's inspiration came J>from Black Sabbath, after all. And Deep Purple was doing Smoke on the J>Water even before that.. and dont forget iron butterfly. inagadadavida(sp) invented a lot of that heavy sound that puts the heavy in heavy metal. nivek.ogre@compudata.com --- þ CMPQwk #1.42þ UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY ------------------------------ Topic No. 7 Date: Fri, 18 Aug 95 02:02:00 -0400 From: nivek.ogre@compudata.com (NIVEK OGRE) To: tool-list@visix.com Subject: band pages. Message-ID: <8AF607A.01F4043B53.uuout@compudata.com> SG>Whoever wanted on the Beck list, here's the address of the guy who SG>own the web page...aeb23@columbia.edu. SG>Everybody- If you have web access, the best thing to do is to do a SG>net search using the band name as the keyword. It will give you a SG>list of pages, and you will find the ones you're looking for, if they SG>exist. If you don't have web access, ask somebody that does, like SG>me:-) SG>Sarah SG>The sky is purple in my world. That is a good idea. thats how i found out about the tool list. oh and to whomever runs the tool page, it rules. it rules alot. btw, are the arcticle on that page available for d/l? i'd like to read all of them offline without feeling pressed for time, as i have 1 hour a day to inet =) nivek.ogre@compudata.com --- þ CMPQwk #1.42þ UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY ------------------------------ Topic No. 8 Date: Fri, 18 Aug 95 02:02:00 -0400 From: nivek.ogre@compudata.com (NIVEK OGRE) To: tool-list@visix.com Subject: Other than TOOL Message-ID: <8AF607A.01F4043B55.uuout@compudata.com> NC>Since nothing seems to going on with Tool and everybody is discussing NC>other bands like Metallica, Pantera, etc. it's about time somebody NC>pointed out that there is a band which is just as fantastic as NC>Tool: NC>Shellac..... NC>I'll count the replies... well then, i guess i'll point out the only band better than tool........ FREE BEER! well, not quite, but still, its my band so therfore, to me its the best band in existance. we can play ina-goda-da-vida (sp?), love buzz, piggy, and reptile. not much, but we're like 1 week old. oh well, is ther anything going on with tool? i mean this is a tool conf and all. seems we talk about other bands more often. if no tool news though, i'd like to hear about any other musicians in the sub .. nivek.ogre@compudata.com --- þ CMPQwk #1.42þ UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY ------------------------------ Topic No. 9 Date: Fri, 18 Aug 95 02:02:00 -0400 From: nivek.ogre@compudata.com (NIVEK OGRE) To: tool-list@visix.com Subject: Little Green Men... Message-ID: <8AF607A.01F4043B59.uuout@compudata.com> KF>Yeah!! Someone else that likes Type O!!!! I saw them for the first KF>time (had never heard of them) when I went to go see Danzig. They KF>put on a great show and I immediately went out and bought Bloody KF>Kisses. Have to admit there are some songs that get kind of lame, KF>but the ones that are good, are damn good!! I just recently saw them KF>again with Queensryche-still just as good. bloody kisses is an ok cd. i have another tape (a collection of type o songs my friend put together for me) and that is awesome! more doomy/gloomy. have you heard thier song off of nativity in black? thats what a lot of thier older stuff sounded like. off of bloody kisses though, i like the song where he goes 'kill all the white people'. stupid song, but a real nice beat to work out to. nivek.ogre@compudata.com --- þ CMPQwk #1.42þ UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY ------------------------------ Topic No. 10 Date: Fri, 18 Aug 95 02:02:00 -0400 From: nivek.ogre@compudata.com (NIVEK OGRE) To: tool-list@visix.com Subject: Battle of the bands Message-ID: <8AF607A.01F4043B5A.uuout@compudata.com> KS>Type O? Yes. They're one of my favourites. In fact, I even planned to KS>do a book on them but they (i.e. their managemnet) never reacted to KS>my phonecalls, faxes and letters. So I dropped the project. (Yes, I KS>am the professional writer listed in Pete's questionaire.) KS> nivek.ogre@compudata.com (NIVEK OGRE) wrote that Kenny (one of KS>Type O's members - no pun intended) will be in Playgirl next month - KS>I guess you're misinformed. Peter Steele, the bassist & singer, is in KS>this month's issue. Which lead to much comment on the list, I can KS>assure you. i'm sorry about that. it very well could have been peter on the talk show. it was 4 am. it sure looked like kenny (allthough they do all look kinda the same - built with long black hair =) .. hmm is the type-o list active? and do they really talk about type-o in there nivek.ogre@compudata.com --- þ CMPQwk #1.42þ UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY ------------------------------ Topic No. 11 Date: Fri, 18 Aug 95 02:02:00 -0400 From: nivek.ogre@compudata.com (NIVEK OGRE) To: tool-list@visix.com Subject: Wake up. Message-ID: <8AF607A.01F4043B5B.uuout@compudata.com> 9>Jesus H, some of you need to find the freaking pantera list and get 9>your asses on it, and at the same time leave this list, I had near 35 9>postings yesterday, and at least a third of them were re:pantera full 9>of comments like "...pantera sucks..." and "...they do not suck....." 9>and ".....no YOU suck....". Who gives a flying fuck at a rolling 9>do-nut? I'm sure you can follow a person's return address and give 9>them a serve personally if you disagree with something that they say, 9>especially if it is NOT TooL related. For fucks sake this is a Tool 9>list and there is just too much other shit to wade through if I want 9>to read tool stuff...... well, not to sound ignorant or conceited, but I'm on way to many mailing lists, so I kind of don't know (or don't care =) what comes from where. I just read everything, digest it, and reply to what is interesting.. I'm sorry if that may amount to many messages from me or some such, but I don't have any clue who I am replying to in what, so I cant 'pace' myself. my $.02 nivek.ogre@compudata.com --- þ CMPQwk #1.42þ UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY ------------------------------ Topic No. 12 Date: Fri, 18 Aug 95 02:02:00 -0400 From: nivek.ogre@compudata.com (NIVEK OGRE) To: tool-list@visix.com Subject: Re: emotional blocks Message-ID: <8AF607A.01F4043B56.uuout@compudata.com> R>A friend of mine read in a Pulse magazine, at the local Tower Records, R>that Al Jourgenson left Ministry. He divorced his wife, gave up R>Industrial music, and he moved to Houston where he now plays country R>music. I'm pretty sure that my friend was serious, because he has R>been a die hard Ministry fan for years and he was almost in tears. i doubt that. either the arcticle was bogus, or to stir up publicity. but after reading the full waxtrax history (quite a good book actually . its only like 40 pages, magazine sized, but i learned more about all of the waxtrax bands than anywhere else). i could mabye see jourgenson leaving ministry, but he is too deranged a fuck to play country. who knows though .. mabye they thought RevCo was a country group? revco's logo's would imply a counrty group .. oh well, my $.02 nivek.ogre@compudata.com --- þ CMPQwk #1.42þ UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY ------------------------------ Topic No. 13 Date: Fri Aug 25 07:59:14 1995 From: brian wood To: tool-list@visix.com Subject: non TOOL - MINISTRY Message-ID: <9508251459.AA10002@chop.isca.uiowa.edu> Hey, This isn't about Tool, so instead of telling me to stick a pipe up my butt, if you don't like it, go on to your next message (thanks). I talked with the drummer for the band Luxury Bucket, in Cedar Falls, Iowa a week ago. He (the drummer) used to work at Wax trax records in Chicago. He had all of these stories about Al smoking two crack pipes at a time and lighting two lighters each in each hand, blah blah blah. I do believe the drummer worked there and knew Al, but a lot of that shit I could care less about (and believe even less). Somewhere along the line Al has become this drug idol, which I think is bullshit. But, if that's why he makes such killer music, then I guess I should stop badgering him. Anyway, this drummer guy was fired by Al because Al thought he stole some crack or something, but up until a month or so ago, they (Ministry) were still recording their new album at Wax trax studios. Unless Al quit Ministry a week or two ago, I'm not buying that story. One thing on that country band. A long time ago, after Psalm 69 first came out, I read an article where Al said he was going to take a breakafter the tour, move to Austin, and start a country band. this was going to be true country/old-style countyr like Hank Williams Sr., which, if I was forced to listen to country, this is the type I would choose. Al said some other "industrial" people would like to do the album with him (some of the ongoing list members of Pigface, I'm sure). I remember on Lollapaloozer 2, during the 1-2 hour wait for Ministry to come on and the sun to go down, there was old country being played over the speakers - Ministry's doing, I'm sure. Granted, this is another "article" like that other story floatiung around, but this one makes a little more sense, and is happier for us Ministry fans because Al was just "taking a little break", from ministry, not leaving altogether. Well, that's it. Take it for what you will. the new releases list still has "Filth Pig" as a new release in a month or two, so it hasn't been cancelled yet. Later. --- Brian Wood "so this is what's in store Iowa City, Iowa pull your head up; no one cares at all" bwood@panda.uiowa.edu Quicksand - "Landmine Spring" ------------------------------ Topic No. 14 Date: Fri, 25 Aug 1995 19:06:38 +0100 (BST) From: kau10@central.sussex.ac.uk (Nicholas Fisher) To: tool-list@Visix.COM Subject: Re: RESIDENTS Message-ID: Andrew M Ford wrote: > > This is in response to the question about The Residents. > > I have heard of the Residents. Actually, I have 2 CD's from them. > One is called "The King and I" and consists of Elvis covers intermixed > with a strange story convulving Elvis and Jesus. I also have a CD > named "The Freak Show" which shows some simularities to Primus' > "Tales from the Punchbowl" by telling the stories of various freaks > and bizzarities (similar in theme only). Actually, on Pork Soda in the > song "The Air is Getting Slippery", Les actually refers to The Residents. > > This band is really out there. Most of their songs are hard to > even label as songs. They definitely cannot be considered a contemporary > of Tool (or anyone, maybe other than Primus, at that). > > - FORD > > If you get the cheesey EP by PRIMUS I think you will find they cover a Residents track! -- Fish ____ |^^^^^^^^^^^)\_/nnnn\^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^| |~~~~~~~~~~~) _ #~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| |~~~~~~~~~~~)/ \___X/~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| \~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~/ \~~kau10~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~/ \~~~~~~@central~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~/ \~~~~~~~~~~~~~.sussex~~~~~~~~~/ \~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~.ac.uk~~/ `-------------------------' ------------------------------ Topic No. 15 Date: Fri, 25 Aug 1995 13:36:51 -0500 (CDT) From: steve goyette To: tool-list@visix.com Subject: am I still on the list? Message-ID: am I still on the list? ******************************************* * Steve Goyette * * SGI System Administrator * * University of Missouri * * Campus Computing Special Projects Group * * Phone: 314-882-7600 * * Fax: 314-884-6700 * * Email: ccsteve@showme.missouri.edu * ******************************************* ------------------------------ Topic No. 16 Date: Fri, 25 Aug 1995 15:59:10 -0400 (EDT) From: "Christopher J. Roschek" To: tool-list@visix.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Cow Licking It's Own Ass Message-ID: On Wed, 16 Aug 1995, Scott M Casey wrote: > I think most everyone here knew about that pic, but does anyone know the > story behind the pic. With the size of the cow I always thought that it > was pregnant and was getting ready to give birth. Havn't seen any > discussion/comments about this so I was just wondering what others had > thought. My opinion is that the cow is "stump broke" - a term referring to what bored, horny farm boys do to cows. They stand on a stump so they're at the right level for well, you know, giving the cow what it needs. When the cow gets used to this (and I guess gets to like it), it will back up to a stump whenever one of the farm boys stands on it. This would explain why the poor cow's ass is so stretched out. By the way, I heard of this a couple of years ago when I lived in Georgia and Alabama and couldn't believe it. Different strokes for different folks, I guess. Anyone have any comments? Later, Chris ------------------------------ Topic No. 17 Date: Fri, 25 Aug 1995 17:27:13 -0500 (CDT) From: Jon Adam Hebert To: tool-list@visix.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: windows 95 Message-ID: Tool has a favorite brand of pancakes??!! Now I can get on with my life. What is it? I just know its KRusteaz!! Pleazzze tell me its Krusteaz! I just couldn't go on living knowing it was Aint Jamima. Jon. ------------------------------ Topic No. 18 Date: Fri, 25 Aug 1995 18:47:56 CDT From: dkouris@iastate.edu To: tool-list@visix.com Subject: Re: emotional blocks Message-ID: <9508252347.AA13679@des1.iastate.edu> > > R>A friend of mine read in a Pulse magazine, at the local Tower Records, > R>that Al Jourgenson left Ministry. He divorced his wife, gave up > R>Industrial music, and he moved to Houston where he now plays country > R>music. I'm pretty sure that my friend was serious, because he has > R>been a die hard Ministry fan for years and he was almost in tears. > > i doubt that. either the arcticle was bogus, or to stir up publicity. > but after reading the full waxtrax history (quite a good book actually > . its only like 40 pages, magazine sized, but i learned more about all > of the waxtrax bands than anywhere else). i could mabye see jourgenson > leaving ministry, but he is too deranged a fuck to play country. who > knows though .. mabye they thought RevCo was a country group? revco's > logo's would imply a counrty group .. oh well, my $.02 > > > nivek.ogre@compudata.com > --- > ~ CMPQwk #1.42~ UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY > What about the new Ministry album? In July Best Buy listed it as coming in August. When August came around Best Buy took down the sign and didn't know if there was going to be an album. Many pardons for taking up Tool-Time! ~SKinny D. ------------------------------ Topic No. 19 Date: Fri, 25 Aug 1995 22:26:12 -0400 From: troll@interlog.com (Christopher S. Andrade) To: tool-list@visix.com Subject: Re: what is that Message-ID: <199508260225.WAA29083@gold.interlog.com> >On the end of track 69 on undertoe after it has been playing for >about 13 minutes what is he talking about? He's asking us all to let the rabbits wear glassess (a shot at religion and tv evangelists no doubt) right at the beginning of disgustipated. Then at around 13:50, this occurs; It was daylight when you woke up in your ditch, You looked up at your sky, that may blue be your colour, You had your knife there with you too, When you stood up, there was goo all over your clothes. Your hands were sticky. You wet them on your grass, so now your colour was green. Oh Lord, was does everything have to keep changing like this? You were already getting nervous again. Your head hurt and it rang when you stood up your head was almost empty, it always hurt you when you woke up like this. You crawled out of your ditch, onto your gravel road, and you began to walk, waiting for the rest of your mind to come back to you. You can see your car parked down the road and you walked toward it. 'If God is our father' you thought, 'then satan must be out cousin'. Why didn't anyone else understand these important things? When you got to your car, you tried all the doors...they were locked. It was a red car and it was new. There was an expensive leather camera case laying on the seat. On across your field, you can see 2 tiny people walking by your woods. You began to walk towards them, now red was your colour, and of course those little people out there were yours too. Very odd the first time I heard it. I found out later on that this is a passage from one of Maynards favourite books. Unfortunately, I'm too dumb to remember what the title and author of the book is, but it is certainly quite interesting. Anyone else with info on this little {well, not so little ;) } bit here? Bro.Troll-----> ------------------------------ End of TOOL-LIST Digest 414 ***************************